tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10838182.post115621750588439722..comments2023-10-31T05:56:45.788-07:00Comments on LutheranChik's "L" Word Diary: Gospel FatigueUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10838182.post-1157246228640600642006-09-02T18:17:00.000-07:002006-09-02T18:17:00.000-07:00I haven't experienced Gospel fatigue yet, but Paul...I haven't experienced Gospel fatigue yet, but Paul is grating on my nerves right now. (as I read through the epistles) He's really got to stop with the whole "I am not commending myself.....I'm not boasting....I'm not trying to puff myself up" I think the disciple doth protest too much.Sarcastic Lutheranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04999711914968434189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10838182.post-1157236759394674922006-09-02T15:39:00.000-07:002006-09-02T15:39:00.000-07:00you have to be just a wee suspicious of anyone who...you have to be just a wee suspicious of anyone who talks about himself in the third person the way The Disciple That Jesus Loved does, eh?womileshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08491230590190855453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10838182.post-1157116104929145722006-09-01T06:08:00.000-07:002006-09-01T06:08:00.000-07:00Hmmm...it might be the 10-minute sermon time limit...Hmmm...it might be the 10-minute sermon time limit, LOL...or, more seriously, because the pastor is so focused on maintaining a Law/Gospel paradigm that s/he doesn't spend a lot of time discussing context. Or there's perhaps a paternalistic supposition that getting into textual criticism is too <I>harrrrrrd</I> for Fritz and Frieda in the pew to handle. (And, sadly, I've heard Fritzes and Friedas complain that Pastor's sermons are too "wordy" and "like a lecture," and that they'd rather have sermons with snappy catch phrases that they can remember the rest of the week.)<BR/><BR/>Thinking about the stages of educational development...I think it's really difficult to preach a sermon that feeds both someone on the simple end of the continuum and also someone at the other end, who craves context and depth. I know I'm not particularly good at it.<BR/><BR/>One of the best preachers I ever heard was a Catholic priest at the campus parish near my university -- an actual Bible scholar. He gave very enlightening sermons that added a lot of dimensionality to the sermon texts.LutheranChikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02685566332651377907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10838182.post-1157109557699045282006-09-01T04:19:00.000-07:002006-09-01T04:19:00.000-07:00Listening to John so much these last few weeks, I'...Listening to John so much these last few weeks, I'm reminded that Jesus sounds ... well, not like the Jesus of the other three gospels, but like a minister speaking very, very well to an exceptionally engaged confirmation class. I used to think the resulting language and theology was beautiful, but now it irritates me a little. A lot, actually, because it draws my attention to the author of this Gospel, and all his "fear of the Jews" talk.<BR/><BR/>Not to mention the utilization of this particular Gospel for 2000 years of pogroms.<BR/><BR/>I miss my unfiltered adoration of the language. Those were the days.<BR/><BR/>P.S. Can you explain why no pastor ever seems to tackle the compositional/tonal questions in this gospel from the pulpit? Only a fraction of the Lutherans I know have ever gone to Sunday adult bible study, let alone a weekly study. Why are these issues rarely if ever addressed in worship, where people actually attend?Jodyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18380822736915028078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10838182.post-1156656618909600792006-08-26T22:30:00.000-07:002006-08-26T22:30:00.000-07:00No shame in needing a break from a Gospel - that's...No shame in needing a break from a Gospel - that's why we've got 4!<BR/> Someone told me once that the each gospel is directed to a different audience; Matthew to the Jews, Mark to the Romans, Luke to the Greeks, and John to those brought up in the faith. Since our culture(s) are influenced by all of these groups, naturally we need to focus on different gospels as our worldview changes.<BR/>Enjoy rereading Mark!<BR/><BR/>God Bless, Whitelaughter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10838182.post-1156379993018603772006-08-23T17:39:00.000-07:002006-08-23T17:39:00.000-07:00I love to hear pastors talk like this. Teehee -Do...I love to hear pastors talk like this. Teehee -Don't mind me.hip2bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00043622691294207012noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10838182.post-1156349223684956262006-08-23T09:07:00.000-07:002006-08-23T09:07:00.000-07:00I should qualify that I don't dislike John. I wou...I should qualify that I don't dislike John. I wouldn't say it's my favourite but I certainly don't dislike it. But if you're talking "Gospel Fatigue" I can see when you've got 5 Sundays in chapter 6 of John talking about bread. Not that I dislike bread...Tom in Ontariohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12154434042794825551noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10838182.post-1156341292859363372006-08-23T06:54:00.000-07:002006-08-23T06:54:00.000-07:00I'm just glad the early church saw fit to leave us...I'm just glad the early church saw fit to leave us four gospels, and rejected attempts by Tatian and others to harmonize them all into one text. The richness of the four different perspectives adds vitality to the gospel message, I think.BruceAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16013588487417582411noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10838182.post-1156340352197572622006-08-23T06:39:00.000-07:002006-08-23T06:39:00.000-07:00Thankfully this Sunday is the last Sunday in chapt...Thankfully this Sunday is the last Sunday in chapter 6 of John. I think the lectionary committee had a collective brain cramp when they scheduled this part of year B. Not only 5 weeks in one chapter of John but some of them overlap!<BR/><BR/>Proper 12: John 6.1-21<BR/>Proper 13: John 6.24-35<BR/>Proper 14: John 6.35, 41-51<BR/>Proper 15: John 6.51-58<BR/>Proper 16: John 6.56-69<BR/><BR/>Well, on the long weekend we get back to the short, sharp, shocked gospel, Mark 7.1-8, 14-15, 21-23, although I'm intrigued to find out just what they're skipping over in the omitted verses.Tom in Ontariohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12154434042794825551noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10838182.post-1156277545088877832006-08-22T13:12:00.000-07:002006-08-22T13:12:00.000-07:00I've got to admit, John has been my least favorite...I've got to admit, John has been my least favorite Gospel for a long, long time. I have trouble dealing with the exclusivity and the greater degree of anti-Judaism. I know that Luther said called John the Gospel with the most gospel in it, or something like that, but sometimes I really have to dig for it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10838182.post-1156272274782278332006-08-22T11:44:00.000-07:002006-08-22T11:44:00.000-07:00I've been haranged by the multitudes of the Gospel...I've been haranged by the multitudes of the Gospel of Luke, many a time, but it is still my favorite in spite of that fact.<BR/>Just wondering is the Lutheran Midway going to happen again? I've been out of the loop for a while.<BR/>Peace,<BR/>ChrisChristopherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07304298306127392428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10838182.post-1156250673644147002006-08-22T05:44:00.000-07:002006-08-22T05:44:00.000-07:00The Gospel of John is very talky, unlike Mark. I r...The Gospel of John is very talky, unlike Mark. I realized this a few years ago when I went to see the movie Gospel of John which is a word-for-word presentation.Jody Harringtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08031378214797420014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10838182.post-1156249599446311602006-08-22T05:26:00.000-07:002006-08-22T05:26:00.000-07:00That's also the advice given to me by a good pasto...That's also the advice given to me by a good pastor mentor regarding writing a sermon -- if there's part of the sermon texts that irritate you, confuse you, otherwise fail to send you down a rainbow of joy and new insight...that's the part of the text to focus on.LutheranChikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02685566332651377907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10838182.post-1156244402371300082006-08-22T04:00:00.000-07:002006-08-22T04:00:00.000-07:00Here is the Zen of Gospel Fatigue -- find what is ...Here is the Zen of Gospel Fatigue -- find what is wearing on you the most. Go into the heart of it -- it may be the pearl in the oyster. (Worth a try anyway.)Mata Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04097615918403870130noreply@blogger.com