tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10838182.post111680803638955692..comments2023-10-31T05:56:45.788-07:00Comments on LutheranChik's "L" Word Diary: Giving Grace AwayUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10838182.post-1116983750281401252005-05-24T18:15:00.000-07:002005-05-24T18:15:00.000-07:00I appreciate your struggle and your ability to hol...I appreciate your struggle and your ability to hold your fire. But please don't forget that in the cause of justice we can sin boldly. And it may not be too big of a sin to boldly object to political takeovers of religious symbols . . .Chris Duckworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15569502792071232013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10838182.post-1116953519014566612005-05-24T09:51:00.000-07:002005-05-24T09:51:00.000-07:00You are my hero too! You've help me work through s...You are my hero too! You've help me work through some false dichotomies I had built into my theology and made me realise that I can hold to a traditional faith with an open heart and a thinking mind.<BR/><BR/>And it's okay to be bitchy. Jesus had his moments too!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10838182.post-1116913386329543622005-05-23T22:43:00.000-07:002005-05-23T22:43:00.000-07:00I know what you mean: about friends who "who exemp...I know what you mean: about friends who "who exemplify Christian grace under fire; they are always positive, kind and calm while still speaking the truth."<BR/><BR/>I am constantly amazed by <A HREF="http://newark.rutgers.edu/~lcrew/rel.html" REL="nofollow">Louie Crew</A>.<BR/><BR/>This man has been out longer than I've been alive (and partnered almost as long). He's received, quite literally, several <B>generations</B> of bullsh*t . . . and yet he keeps returning good for evil, grace for abuse, joy for rage.<BR/><BR/>Glorious.<BR/><BR/><I>Lord, make me more like Quean Lutibelle!</I>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10838182.post-1116883680394795602005-05-23T14:28:00.000-07:002005-05-23T14:28:00.000-07:00Christopher -- I'm blushing; I've got publicity? [...Christopher -- I'm blushing; I've got <I>publicity</I>? [grin...actually, in real life I do PR]<BR/><BR/>It was one of those serendipitous, Spirit-led instances when, just when you really need to read something, it's right there.;-)LutheranChikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02685566332651377907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10838182.post-1116883550080427302005-05-23T14:25:00.000-07:002005-05-23T14:25:00.000-07:00J.C. Oh, sure, I feel like I can't win. I have a...J.C. Oh, sure, I feel like I can't win. I have a hard time balancing moral outrage -- "If not me, who? If not now, when?" -- with composing a response that's mindful enough to not sink to the other person's level. <BR/><BR/>I have friends on Beliefnet -- Dan, Justin, Ranchhand, Robinsgarret -- who exemplify Christian grace under fire; they are always positive, kind and calm while still speaking the truth, and they have a better discernment skills than I do when it comes to knowing when to jump into the fray and when to stay out of it. (If any of you are reading this...you are my heroes!)LutheranChikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02685566332651377907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10838182.post-1116883033982025002005-05-23T14:17:00.000-07:002005-05-23T14:17:00.000-07:00p.s. even when you're nasty, you're probably still...<I>p.s. even when you're nasty, you're probably still a bit nice.</I><BR/><BR/>No, not really...I can be pretty bitchy. [rueful grin] But thanks for the vote of confidence, as misplaced as it is.;-)LutheranChikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02685566332651377907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10838182.post-1116875311136980102005-05-23T12:08:00.000-07:002005-05-23T12:08:00.000-07:00LC, great post. Reminded me to breath a bit and b...LC, great post. Reminded me to breath a bit and be a little more rooted to give grace away. BTW: Since I don't have trackbacking, just to let you know, I pointed folks toward your Trinity post.Closedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04752595488795781895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10838182.post-1116853743187581372005-05-23T06:09:00.000-07:002005-05-23T06:09:00.000-07:00JCF,We've all done it a million times. And the an...JCF,<BR/><BR/>We've all done it a million times. And the answer is always the same: We have to respond to hatred with love. As LC says, we have to give grace away. We have to forgive seventy times seven. <BR/><BR/>Do I know how to do this? No. After reading a self-righteous gay-bashing letter to the editor in my paper yesterday, I spent about 3 hours composing responses in my head. In the end, I was unable to come up with a suitable response. The snippy, combative ones that feel so good at first all got ruled out for the reasons we are discussing here. On the other hand, all of the responses that attemped to show love, give grace, etc. failed because they just did not ring true to me. I haven't in my own mind come to find love and grace to spare for hate-filled people.<BR/><BR/>It's hard to be a liberal, because in the end the problem is always our problem, and the work that needs to be done needs to be done by us. Good thing the Holy Spirit is there to help; I sure don't have the energy to do this on my own.Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11723971441793150228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10838182.post-1116827205626362792005-05-22T22:46:00.000-07:002005-05-22T22:46:00.000-07:00LC, do you ever feel like you can't win?I, too, ha...LC, do you ever feel like <B>you can't win?</B><BR/><BR/>I, too, have been caught up in graceless arguments: particularly at the <A HREF="http://www.thinkinganglicans.org.uk/" REL="nofollow">Thinking Anglicans</A> website.<BR/><BR/>I feel like I can't say what I <B>need</B> to say (that which, if I hold my silence, I'm silencing the Holy Spirit), <I>without</I> being at best <B>obnoxious</B>, and at worst <B>uncharitable</B>.<BR/><BR/>One post stands out in particular: a conservative to whom I was responding, was obviously poorly-educated, w/ many mis-spellings. <BR/><BR/>One such word she misspelled was "orthodox" (she had it as "orthordox"). This seemed especially ironic, considering that it is <B>orthodoxy</B> which my conservative opponents claim (solely) for themselves.<BR/><BR/>Furthermore, the poster in question---a woman who ID'd herself as a member of one of the six ECUSA parishes in Connecticut which are trying to secede from their diocese---had <I>negatively</I> defined her beliefs as "not in the way [her bishop] does".<BR/><BR/>Ergo, to communicate this irony, I quoted her above definition, and commented <BR/><BR/><B>"orthordox-y revealed?"</B><BR/><BR/>{sigh}<BR/><BR/>I felt like I <B>needed</B> to put it that way . . . and yet at the same time, I felt <I>dirty</I> (like I was just assuming the role of generations of over-educated elitists before me, mocking "my social inferiors")<BR/><BR/><I>Can't win.</I><BR/><BR/>{sigh}<BR/><BR/>Kyrie eleison!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10838182.post-1116822609383000782005-05-22T21:30:00.000-07:002005-05-22T21:30:00.000-07:00beautifully done -- p.s. even when you're nasty, y...beautifully done -- p.s. even when you're nasty, you're probably still at bit nice. God Bless You! M.P.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com