tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10838182.post111232324051660965..comments2023-10-31T05:56:45.788-07:00Comments on LutheranChik's "L" Word Diary: LutheranShiksa Studies Torah (and Makes Soup)Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10838182.post-1112573046945261952005-04-03T17:04:00.000-07:002005-04-03T17:04:00.000-07:00Speaking of taking what you can use and leaving th...Speaking of taking what you can use and leaving the rest...I recently found out, to my dismay, that Braaten and Jenson, the two theologians I referred to in my post about going back for Mary, participated in a letter drafted by, I think, 17 ELCA theologians who object to full inclusion. My first thought was, "Oh, <I>crap.</I>" My second was, as my pastor likes to say, "Have <I>you</I> ever been wrong about anything?"LutheranChikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02685566332651377907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10838182.post-1112470647303924562005-04-02T11:37:00.000-08:002005-04-02T11:37:00.000-08:00Thanks for that soup recipe, BTW. Love the soup, ...Thanks for that soup recipe, BTW. Love the soup, and gonna try it sometime.blshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07627725321531151309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10838182.post-1112470161012261922005-04-02T11:29:00.000-08:002005-04-02T11:29:00.000-08:00(I should add that, as I recall, Klinghoffer did a...(I should add that, as I recall, Klinghoffer <I>did</I> attempt to advance the "Bible does not contradict itself" position. So if you're put off by that, you may not like the book and may want to brain me for suggesting it. So I'm CMA here.<BR/><BR/>Me, though, I "take what I need and leave the rest" these days. IOW, he's a crackpot on that point, so I ignore it and look at all the really interesting scholarship. <BR/><BR/>Know what I mean?)blshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07627725321531151309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10838182.post-1112408520776652532005-04-01T18:22:00.000-08:002005-04-01T18:22:00.000-08:00Ah, another book! My hometown bookseller thanks y...Ah, another book! My hometown bookseller thanks you very much for his support.;-) (I'm his very bestest friend now...he just grins whenever I walk in and automatically hauls out his special-order forms.)<BR/><BR/>One of the books I'm reading is "Return to the Sources," edited by Barry Holtz, an anthology of commentaries on the classic Jewish texts. One of the things that appeal to me about the Jewish approach to studying Scripture is the looseness and openness to continuing revelation -- a mindset that, unlike the "me and Jesus under the blanket with a flashlight" subjectivity of some sectors in Christianity, works because it coexists with a religious culture centered on community discernment -- people hashing ideas out together. And coming from a church culture that is very cerebral, very "thinky," much inclined to dissection of Scripture, I appreciate gaining the balance of this other, more intuitive approach...it's like a communal <I>lectio divina</I>. <BR/><BR/>Yeah...I'm very interested in the oral tradition as well. And Jesus would have been <I>steeped</I> in all of this, not just the Tanakh.LutheranChikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02685566332651377907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10838182.post-1112372805846158862005-04-01T08:26:00.000-08:002005-04-01T08:26:00.000-08:00Sounds very interesting. It's wonderful to read a...Sounds very interesting. It's wonderful to read about our much-further-back heritage, and as you say, it makes our own understanding of the Gospels and to Jesus that much clearer and closer.<BR/><BR/>I read a wonderful book awhile back: "<A HREF="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0385499736/qid=1112372690/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl14/102-1697207-0912121?v=glance&s=books&n=507846" REL="nofollow">The Discovery of God: Abraham and the Birth of Monotheism</A>," by a fairly conservative Jewish writer, David Klinghoffer. (Of course by conservative Christian standards, he's a wide-eyed, raving lunatic leftist.) Anyway, some wonderful deep-background stuff on the earliest stories in the Bible, and a beginners'-level (for me, I mean) discussion of the oral vs. the written traditions - something I'd like to know much more about. <BR/><BR/>The oral tradition sheds much light on the Torah, and contains material totally unknown to most Christians.blshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07627725321531151309noreply@blogger.com